Diskuschoon:Reej

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Mutt dat Greifenberg heten oder Gri(e)penbarg? Greiffenhagen steiht bi us ja as Gripenhagen to Book. Ik fraag dat, weil Wolfgang Lindow in Greifenberg an der Rega boren is---Bolingbroke 18:19, 18. Mär 2008 (CET)[anter]

Ik gah dor ganz fast vun ut, dat dat Griepenbarg heet. Aver betherto heff ik noch keen Nawies funnen. Ik bün jümmer en beten trüchhollern, wenn dat üm Trüchöversetten ut dat Hoochdüütsche geiht. Dat kann licht scheefgahn. Welk Tieden do ik dat, wenn ik mi temlich seker bün, dat dat stimmt, annere Tieden do ik dat nich. Ganz ehrlich: dat kann gor nich anners heten as Griepenbarg, oder? Ik glööv, wi köönt dat ok ahn Nawies op Griepenbarg ännern. --::Slomox:: >< 18:39, 18. Mär 2008 (CET)[anter]
De Oort hett to Hansetieden Griphenberch heten un Westpommern hett noch to de Gegend tohöört, in de sik Berg in Barg wannelt hett (dat stimmt doch oder, ik kann jüst nich in'n DIWA nakieken?). Also Griepenbarg. --::Slomox:: >< 18:54, 18. Mär 2008 (CET)[anter]
Jüst bi de Berg-Koort bi Wenker fehlt de Oosten. Aver de wird-Koort mutt meist jüstso verlopen (plattdüütsche Grundform is werd un dor stickt ok wedder e + r + Konsonant in) un dor is de kumplette Oosten ward. --::Slomox:: >< 19:22, 18. Mär 2008 (CET)[anter]

Name "Reej"[Bornkood ännern]

Can anybody give some source for the name "Reej"? I've been anylising books with hydronimia, and I coundn't find that name. JDavid 22:24, 14. Nov. 2009 (CET)[anter]

As Low Saxon as a language is neglected by official authorities as well as science since centuries, most Low Saxon place names are undocumented and only in oral use (well, east of the Oder river, of course, since 1945 not even in oral use). Therefore I spend much effort in collecting these names from diverse scattered source materials. I'm quite sure, that the source of the name Reej is a book with the Google Books id uWpsJwbuNCIC. But I have to admit, that I misguidedly trusted the stability of Google Books. I just documented the id and no author or title and now the book is gone on Google Books. I have no idea how to recover this information. But I can assure you, that Reej is the logical result of language shifts in Pomeranian Low Saxon. --::Slomox:: >< 20:44, 15. Nov. 2009 (CET)[anter]
  • Firstly name was noted in year 1170 (Pommersches Urkundenbuch [1180]) –... iuxta Regam fluvium .... Language scientists present a root *reg- resultant from *rag- or *rog. Another show the name Raga from the name of Indo-European origin, where his core was *arg. I don't how Reej could have be possible. JDavid 13:12, 16. Nov. 2009 (CET)[anter]
Well, the Low Saxon name was Rega too in Hanseatic Low Saxon. The a got weakened to e resulting in Rege. Then apocope (a common feature of all northern Low Saxon dialects) took place resulting in Reg’. Final g developed into voiced or voiceless palatal fricatives in all Low Saxon dialects. This results in ch or j. And there we are at Reej. It could also be written Reeg or Reech, that's almost equivalent, but the source wrote it with j. --::Slomox:: >< 14:12, 16. Nov. 2009 (CET)[anter]